Hello and welcome to the Special ID Not-Cat Collectors thread!




Some ground rules:

1. Only use the appropriate pinglists for your sales threads (there are different categories for certain G1 and G2+ not-cats!). If you aren't sure, you can always use the general sales pinglist, or you can ask me! On a similar note, make sure to check that you've added the right cats to your sales post so it doesn't look like you're misusing the pinglist.
   
   
2. Do NOT harass anyone who has a not-cat that you want, and DO NOT try to intentionally lowball anyone, especially if they aren't aware of special IDs.
   
   
3. Make sure to pay attention to the special requests on the pinglist before you ping anyone.
   
   
4. Don't use the pinglist on replies to this thread for your sales or ICs, and share Not-Cats elsewhere. It's more helpful for potential buyers if you have the type of special ID in the title, and keeps the forums nice and neat. This is the 'Guides' section, after all, not the 'Cat Sales & Trades' or 'Cat & Village Share' section.
   
   
5. Be nice, and don't criticise someone for asking questions, even if they were already answered in the thread.

The spreadsheet is admittedly a little complex. There are lots of different categories and terms that I use, so don't be afraid to ask anything if it confuses you! If the day comes that thousands of people are on the pinglist, I will try my hand at utilising a sheet that is connected to a google form, so that sellers can copy pings from a single cell, but that requires more complex knowledge of google sheets than I actually have right now.



Pricing Help?

The special ID collecting community is currently so small that special IDs aren't really worth any significant amount unless it is a major milestone ID (the 150k ID with hidden heart mantle was recently auctioned for +20kn). Special IDs have a bit of rarity, but next to no demand. This means you are (currently) best getting pricing guidance elsewhere for a 'base price' and then adding a bit extra.

I am currently looking for people who have already bought special IDs. If you've ever bought a not-cat with a notable ID, I have some questions that I'd love to ask you in order to improve future price estimations for other special ID cats:

1. What was the ID number? (I will categorise the number myself)
2. What other factor(s) can you think of that also affected the value?
3. Did you buy the not-cat from an auction, CRB flatsale, or private negotiation?
4. What was the price/What did you trade for it?
5. Was it a Nestor/Gardenhome G1? Or was it G2/G3+?
6. Is it okay for me to share all these details with PCE players via the forum?

I will probably make another spreadsheet for this purchase data, but this and the pinglist has already taken up a whole week of my time so I'm going to take a break for now and just pop them in a third post.

But what IS a special ID?

There are 6 unique types I am going to refer to, but a special ID is a general category involving any not-cat with a significant or aesthetically pleasing ID. 'Special' is a pretty subjective word, and so any neat-looking ID is game for the general pinglists! An ID like #112358 doesn't fit into the below categories, but it is a Fibonacci sequence and so could be considered special to those who like mathematical patterns.

For the sake of keeping short-digits and special IDs separate, I will be referring to 5 and 6 digit IDs only. Special IDs in short digits are more common and therefore less special, even though short IDs tend to be desirable partially for their aesthetic quality. The Cat Buyer's Pinglist thread has a pinglist for short IDs, so go and use that one.


Milestones

When PCE reaches a new milestone in the number of not-cats that are on-site, the result is a coveted milestone ID.

IDs like A00000 or AB000, with lots of zeros at the end can be considered 'hits', and the 10 not-cat IDs either side can be considered 'misses', such as 999990 or 1000010, which would be misses for the future milestone ID #1000000. Milestones will also frequently overlap with Solid Strings due to this nature.


Solid Strings

At least 5 digits of the ID is made up of the same single-digit number appearing in a row.

Examples include:
AAAAA true solid pattern
AAAAAA true solid pattern
ABAAAA interrupted pattern
AAAAAB interrupted pattern

6 digit IDs may be broken up by only a single digit to be considered full solid strings. 5 digit IDs are too small to be considered full strings when they are interrupted.

A mini solid string is 3 or 4 digits that are the same in a row (all uninterrupted). Please do not ping the Solid String list for mini solid strings unless they specify that they are interested in mini strings. Ping general for mini patterns.


Repeating Sets

Repeating set IDs have a repeating pattern made up of two or more digits.

Examples include:
ABABAB (2x3 pattern)
ABCABC (3x2 pattern)
AABAAB (another 3x2 pattern)
ABBABB (another 3x2 pattern)

5 digit IDs are too small to be considered full repeating sets.

Mini repeating sets include 2x2 patterns (ABABx). Ping General for mini patterns unless a user requests otherwise.


Palindromes

A palindrome ID reads the same forwards and backwards. If the first half reads ABC, then a full palindrome's second half will read CBA.

For example, the 6 digit patterns include:
ABCCBA
AABBAA
ABBBBA

And the 5 digit patterns include:
ABCBA
ABBBA
AABAA

Mini/partial palindrome IDs are palindromes that don't take up the full length of the ID, such as ABCBAx in 6 digits or ABBAx in 5 digits. Ping general for mini patterns unless a user requests otherwise.


Consecutives

A consecutive string ID is an ID with at least 3 consecutive increasing or decreasing integers (the ID must be increasing OR decreasing, not both). The two subtypes are 'counting' patterns and 'stretched' patterns.

Counting pattern consecutives follow the pattern ABCDEF or FEDCBA, with all digits being smaller/larger than the digit to the right by 1. Counting pattern consecutives must be uninterrupted.

Stretched pattern consecutives are interrupted with a string of the same digit. As stated previously, there should be 3 different digits for it to count as a consecutive ID.

For example, stretched patterns include:
AABBCC
AAAABC
ABBCCC
ABBCC
ABBBC

It's important to note that consecutive numbers greater than 9 don't count for the true consecutive pattern, so for IDs like XAXBXC, you should ping general. Any consecutive that doesn't take up the full ID is a mini consecutive and you should ping general for those, too.

Tuples

A tuple ID is one that has two or more individual digits, with at least one instance of alike digits being next to eachother for each individual digit.

Examples of 2 digit tuples:
AAABBB
AABBB
AAABB

3 digit tuple pattern (only 6 digit IDs can be a 3 digit tuple):
AABBCC

Partial tuples are 2 digit tuples can have one or two interrupted spaces, for example AABBxy or AAxBBB as 6 digits and xAABB in 5 digits.

I am currently looking for people who have already bought special IDs. If you've ever bought a not-cat with a notable ID, I have some questions that I'd love to ask you in order to improve future price estimations for other special ID cats:

1. What was the ID number? (I will categorise the number myself)
2. What other factor(s) can you think of that also affected the value?
3. Did you buy the not-cat from an auction, CRB flatsale, or private negotiation?
4. What was the price/What did you trade for it?
5. Was it a Nestor/Gardenhome G1? Or was it G2/G3+?
6. Is it okay for me to share all these details with PCE players via the forum?

Not-Cat #368368
ID Category: repeating
Sub-category:
Generation:1 MFE
Price/deal (with approximate notes equivalent): 3kn? got from directly
Any other details: Good scribe (+6), 21 cleverness, 3 energy, NF

vibes in bio

Not-Cat #393393
ID category: Palindrome + repeating
Sub-category: 3x2 Repeating pattern
Generation: Gardenhome G1
Price/deal (with approximate notes equivalent): 300-400 notes (considering only on appearance)

@Watery Thank you for the new data!