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TOPIC | Nestor Cat Text Adjustment

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Darkfang8901

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Jun 18, 2023 1:26:24
So this was inspired by some of the discussion here

I didn’t want to try making it in the same thread because it’s… different to what was suggested there.

A point people often make when talking about Nestor cats, is feeling like they can’t not accept the cats. They feel like by saying no to a cat, especially to kittens and beans, they’re abandoning those cats to the wilds. Which, when you’re thinking of beans is a very hard thing to imagine.

My suggestion is to add something to Nestor’s text that says or implies that he will find another home for a cat, should the person being offered them not desire a cat at that point in time. Even if that cat does not get generated for another person I think just the lore aspect of it will alleviate a lot of the… idk if stress is the right word, but it’s kind of like, the stress of feeling as though a cat you reject is just completely abandoned.

This would be an entirely lore based fix, because I know it’s been said that cats offered by Nestor aren’t actually generated until you accept, so it’s not really possible for a rejected cat to be re-generated for another user.

Tl;dr - Have Nestor say/imply that if you don’t accept a cat then that cat will find a loving home in another village, or even the city (and not just be abandoned).
-- Last edited on Jun 18, 2023 1:37:43
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Squid

The Not-Village

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Jun 18, 2023 8:37:23
I kinda see what you're saying for the beans and kittens (though Nestor talks to thousands of cats a day, so the meeting grounds is hardly the wilds). I think it would be hard to phrase, though, without implying that the cats would ever think that Nestor would be capable of abandoning a kitten.

Nestor spawned into existence with a specific purpose (to protect and care for not-cats) and all of the not-cats would know that... so I don't think it would lore-wise occur to either as a concern that would need to be eased. Nestor abandoning a kitten would be like an immortal refrigerator that doesn't keep things cold. It counters the entire purpose that that thing exists. A bean with Nestor is perhaps a bean in the best possible hands (hooves?).

Maybe just more Nestor lore on Nestor's origins to make this clear in the article would suffice (I think it's just buried in the Lore Q&A thread).

Not sure about the adult cats, though. The whole point of the vibe check is so that people can decline cats that don't fit in with the rest of the village. They're all adults that can take care of themselves, so I don't think they actually urgently need a loving home, really. They can build their own if they want, head over to Gardenhome, meet up with other cats, commit highway robbery, explore the world, and so on. I feel like it would be kind of strange to imply that they need to be taken care of.

Fun facts: Back when there was going to be a 6th personality trait that could cause cats to not listen to you at all and actively make things difficult for you, it would have been used to weed out troublemakers that would damage the cohesion of your village, refuse to do their jobs, and annoy the other cats.

It turned out people will just accept every cat because kitty cute and because you can resell or send to the city for a profit, so it is mostly just fluff now - but the intent is certainly there.

Some people seem to not realize you can just not accept the cat, so I could have added a "no thanks" type button, but I figured people would just misclick it.
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Squid

The Not-Village

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Jun 18, 2023 9:02:35
Ok ok I've got it. I'm about to adjust Nestor's kitten flavortext to one of 6 random options. All of which are really cute teehee
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Darkfang8901

Thunder

(they/them)

account age 8/9

Jun 19, 2023 5:29:33
I am excited to discover them!!!

EDIT:
But yeah, I know that Nestor isn’t abandoning kittens, but from a lot of discussion on [and off] site, there are a not insignificant number of people who feel that saying no to kittens means they’re abandoned, so anything to sort of ease those fears is a good thing ^^

Tangential ramble [i’m good at rambling]:
When Nestor gives us things oftentimes he’ll say “hey I found this thing, do you want this thing [para]?” so it’s not a far leap for people to assume that when Nestor offers a kitten it’s like “hey I found this thing [kitten], do you want this thing?” rather than “I have this child in my care who may benefit from a village, would you like to adopt them?”
Y’know?
-- Last edited on Jun 19, 2023 5:40:12
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