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TOPIC | Trading board

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Darkfang8901

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Sep 12, 2023 0:29:48
Ruesion said
Darkfang8901 said
[quote=SpiritOwl said]
I'd like if there existed a public trades listing area!!! so items could be traded for items among users quickly, easily, and directly!


@SpiritOwl Yeah! This is what I was trying to get at in my counter/alternative



Thats what im getting at too pretty much, exept multiple people can put in a trade on the same trade at once and you can accept the one you like ig. I think I confused everyone Proably should have had someone proofread weary[/quote]



Yeah a compromise could be just making it as direct as the OM. Listing X item for Y item and making an immediate 1:1 trade
Or even multi item trades, but still at a direct “Click here to get now” functionality

EDIT: oh wow, too many quotes
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Misty Cordillera

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Sep 12, 2023 0:30:02
astralprogenitor said
I really don't see the point of this compared to the CRB / OM either. You can contact the seller, the seller can leave notes as to haggles/offers/etc. It seems like it's remaking a lot of functionality that already exists. OM/CRB has everything you're saying except seeing other offers / auctioning ... And like, I get that looking through threads can be a little bit of a hassle sometimes but they do everything you want that OM/CRB doesn't otherwise?

At absolute best I could see adding an 'offer' ability to the OM/CRB similar to the tradepost back on like, Neopets, maybe, but building an entirely new system is super redundant and would just split the market community even more than OM/CRB//Threads as it is.

Edit: In development it's generally better to not re-create systems for one small addition/change especially when those systems already exist in another form, so a whole new system is definitely a no support from me. I have no idea how feasible adding an offer system for the OM/CRB would be but it's the only way I'd say support to something like this, I think.


As for this. It's not just currency. You can offer items, cats, and currency all at once. You can offer anything thats tradable for anything thats tradable. Its not a currency thing at all. Making it stand out from om and crb due to those being set currency, no offers, and no other tradable items

The threads are a mess and I seen games do this before while having sales threads, and flat sale areas and work fine, and its alot neater and cleaner than just threads and flatsales. I wouldnt have made this post if I didnt know how it felt to struggle with the painful threads and such. I cant read well with massive walls of text (Which is why you see so many errors in my text) and im sure alot of others struggle to. And threads are just that. Walls of text + many of comments to read through for me to most likely overlook unless I highlight every single word.

Its one of the main reasons I either just sell any cat at floor price despite rarity instead of putting the rare ones up for offers. Im more likely to send a albino I dont want to the city than trying to do anything with threads cause of how messy and stressful it is. Sure I can do crb but I still have to guess how much to sell it for. With this system and I can just put it up, And people and put offers I can check anytime, pick any then and there. And no massive thread to clean up or read through anytime someone talks for any reason I cant stop.
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Ruesion

Misty Cordillera

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Sep 12, 2023 0:32:13
@Darkfang

Thats been suggested before as said by Nae sigh So cant suggest that for this
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Darkfang8901

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Sep 12, 2023 0:58:17
Ruesion said
@Darkfang

Thats been suggested before as said by Nae sigh So cant suggest that for this


No, Nae said someone else suggested a buy-side of the OM, not an item 1:1

Nae said
Someone also previously suggested a buy-side market (I put up a wanted ad for Catmint Tea for 600n, and someone can click Sell to sell theirs to me) that I feel I prefer compared to this.


Buy-side OM: Lists that someone will buy catmint tea for 600n [still a notes sale]
Public Tradeboard by Dark: Lists that someone will trade catmint tea for periwinkle crown [dual item trade]
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Briah

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Sep 12, 2023 8:36:16
I'm more inclined for the system Dark proposed than the original idea. I also don't like "just offer multiple different trades" as it can get extremely messy and spammy.
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Misty Cordillera

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Sep 12, 2023 9:02:42
Nae said
I'm more inclined for the system Dark proposed than the original idea. I also don't like "just offer multiple different trades" as it can get extremely messy and spammy.


I dont see how it would be any More messy than the mass amount of messages you get for putting things up on the om one at a time and they sell.

Let alone anymore messy then how threads are for sales and organization.
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Nae

Briah

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Sep 12, 2023 9:42:23
Because you consent to those. The sales notifications is developer-side (as in, nothing we can do about it, since that's just the system in place) and forums specifically look for posts. However, I've not seen a single case of one user flooding someone's sales thread.

It would be easy for someone to just continually send in trade offers if there's no restrictions. And how do you even restrict it so people can't just toss a bunch of lowballed offers? If people can set their trades to be private then onlookers would be none the wiser.

As a comment for restricting trades to only allow certain things to be offered, I worry about the information overload there. I'd likely not use it for that. Dark's system is also just better because many people do 1:1 trades (fantail for fantail, planks for paints, etc.) which makes it more efficient.
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Ruesion

Misty Cordillera

account age 6/9

Sep 12, 2023 9:51:46
Nae said
Because you consent to those. The sales notifications is developer-side (as in, nothing we can do about it, since that's just the system in place) and forums specifically look for posts. However, I've not seen a single case of one user flooding someone's sales thread.

It would be easy for someone to just continually send in trade offers if there's no restrictions. And how do you even restrict it so people can't just toss a bunch of lowballed offers? If people can set their trades to be private then onlookers would be none the wiser.

As a comment for restricting trades to only allow certain things to be offered, I worry about the information overload there. I'd likely not use it for that. Dark's system is also just better because many people do 1:1 trades (fantail for fantail, planks for paints, etc.) which makes it more efficient.


Could add a restriction limit, not saying there wouldn't be one just ideas,and have a option to remove those types of notifications. As for the consent you also consent to getting pings for offers when people offer when you put up the post in the first place. I dont see a difference here between consent over om and this. I understand 1:1 trades happens alot but also people just wanting to see offers or looking for things that wouldn't be easy to know what you would want in exchange. This hits alot more things people need than 1:1.

Im no coder, I dont know how hard it would be for all of that. I just know I have seen this system work before, its not exact but referenced
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